Bobbin and Eric host… two guests today! We are joined by OJRC Policy Director Zach Winston and Carl MacPherson, Executive Director of Metropolitan Public Defender. Your hosts unpack the week in news on the Supreme Court decision on ineffective counsel in Shinn. V Ramirez and Jones, reflect on the 2nd year of George Floyd’s death anniversary, and process the devastating mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas. Zach talks about why a carceral response in more police officers, SRO’s, and arming teachers has been and would be ineffective in preventing gun violence. Carl, our guest, shares about his work in public defense, the problematic culture that exists, and why prosecutors working with law enforcement is not good practice. Bobbin, Eric, Zach, and Carl end on talking about the binary we’ve created in this country of “good and bad people,” and why we must dispel fears about incarcerated individuals because as Bryan Stevenson says, we are more than the worst thing that we have done.
The Trail Blazing Justice podcast is a production of the Oregon Justice Resource Center.